Bulgarian for Masters??

[azolylifter]

I am thinking about doing Nick Horton's (PDX Weightlifting) version of Bulgarian training. Basically, I would be doing:

Monday - Snatch to max plus 3 doubles, CJ to max, FS to max plus 2-3 doubles/triples
Tuesday - Power SN to max, Power Clean to max, BS to max plus 2-3 triples
Wednesay - rest day
Thursday - Same as Mon
Friday - same as Tues
Sat - same as Mon/Thurs

What does everybody think?? I'm 39 and compete in the 85's. Bests are around 90 SN and 120 CJ.

[JohnCaesar]

Do it. I am interested to see how it turns out.

[azolylifter]

Originally Posted by JohnCaesar

Do it. I am interested to see how it turns out.

Thanks!!

I did a shortened version of it last year for about 6 weeks and it worked pretty well. If I do it here, I will start it after my June 23rd meet.

[Joel]

Good topic.

I've always wondered about Bulgarian for master lifters. I used to train 4 days a week, then eventually cut it to 3 x a week as I got (relatively) strong (for my age).

[David Woodhouse]

Like Nick alot but the worst possible thing a Master lifter can do is adopt a Bulgarian training program. You are not a genetic outlier, you cannot have a two hour nap every afternoon and most importantly... you are not having daily injections of testosterone suspension!!

My next article is going to illustrate how little training a Master actually requires to reach the World top 5...

[Joel]

Originally Posted by David Woodhouse

Like Nick alot but the worst possible thing a Master lifter can do is adopt a Bulgarian training program. You are not a genetic outlier, you cannot have a two hour nap every afternoon and most importantly... you are not having daily injections of testosterone suspension!!

My next article is going to illustrate how little training a Master actually requires to reach the World top 5...

Good deal. Please share with the rest with once you finish the article. Thanks.

[Einherjar]

Originally Posted by David Woodhouse

Like Nick alot but the worst possible thing a Master lifter can do is adopt a Bulgarian training program. You are not a genetic outlier, you cannot have a two hour nap every afternoon and most importantly... you are not having daily injections of testosterone suspension!!

My next article is going to illustrate how little training a Master actually requires to reach the World top 5...

Really interested in reading this.

[oldgit]

i like nick hortons ideas,basically doing a lot of frequency at as high an intensity as possible,but low volume,really low volume sometimes. i have been trying this in recent months-snatching and c&j each three times a week-but just doing 1-2 sets of singles at 90-100% or doubles at 85-90% of intended max-and my groove in the lifts and technique has improved dramatically-when u fart around with weights below 80% you never know if your technique is bad-i can hit 80% of my best snatch every time even with rubbish technique and bent arm pulling etc etc-but when that kg gets towards your max-thats when you will fail if ur tech is not at least 90% correct. so i do a week of doubles,then a week of singles and then a de-load week of 60% and repeat

[azolylifter]

oldgit - I'll be revamping my programming to do basically that. It will be low volume, moderate intensity. I won't be going up to 90%+ for awhile. Basically will be hitting positions for a bit between 70-85% for most of the training. I'll slowly move it up to the 90-100% range when I get closer to a meet.

I like alot of Horton's ideas also, but I think for Master lifters it's not so great to keep going without planned deloads. That's the basic deal I'll be doing is periodizing my program a bit more. We'll see if it works when I lift at the Arnold (?)

[Randy Hauer]

i don't know what the real bulgarian program is, sans drugs, and i would dispute that anyone else really does know with certainty. perhaps masters under 45 can deal with heavier loading day in day out, women perhaps a little older since the absolute loads are still far less. But the guys with the longest, injury free careers don't push momentary maxes daily. they live in the 75-85% 1rm world the majority of the time.

as far as I can tell, the american proponents of the so called bulgarian method in any age group invariably leave their best lifts in the gym, not on the comp platform where it counts. "world's strongest teenager" would be a 30kg example of that.